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<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt">帖名<SPAN lang=EN-US>:<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">RE:</B></SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">關於推行粵語作為漢民族通用標準語的建議、歡迎提出不同看法探討<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">119</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">楼</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">上海闲话</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">abc<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>2004-1-6 17:58</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">普通话的缺陷,归纳起来一下几点。</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥" lang=EN-US><BR>1</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">,北方话在阿尔泰民族政权统治下,</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">长期朝脱离族语方向发展</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN>其后果,大量古诗不能读了,经典诗词格律不能用了。这些</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">千年的文化遗产弃置一边。我们还是汉唐文化的承继者吗?</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥" lang=EN-US><BR>2</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">,由于北方话有</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">大量不规范、不规则变化</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">,所以给当年规范化带来问题。规范入声字的读音,古籍没了用;所以大量</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">入声字的读音是认为定下来的</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN>其后果,海峡两岸的普通话中,有大量字读音不一致。</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥" lang=EN-US><BR>3</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">,阿尔泰民族语言的音素,有别古汉语,几次冲刷汉语后,在普通话中音素、</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">音节脱失严重</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN>普通话的音素</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">和吴方言音素相比没有浊音、没有尖团之别</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">,</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">于粤语等南方话比没有促音、没有唇鼻音韵尾。</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥" lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">其后果,造成我们只使用普通话的,在</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">学习外语的时候发音困难远多于,其他汉语方言区同胞。</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">比如不分清浊、舒促、和分不清<SPAN lang=EN-US>si,</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">∫</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥" lang=EN-US>i</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">;甚至将舌叶音英语的<SPAN lang=EN-US>sh</SPAN>和汉语拼音的舌尖音<SPAN lang=EN-US>sh</SPAN>搅和在一道。</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥" lang=EN-US><BR>4</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">,北方同胞习得的一些</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">阿尔泰民族发音习惯,使得普通话的声调起伏过大。</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥" lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">其后果,</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 16pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt">造成汉语推广有困难</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">。老外学习普通话摆脱不了洋腔洋调。相反,外国人学习上海话,就没有声调把握不准的问题。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><BR></SPAN>但是,名分以定,大家还是为方言的生存空间斗争吧!</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">[</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">转帖</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">] </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">转自百度</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt">汉语</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">吧</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt">帖名<SPAN lang=EN-US>:</SPAN></SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">不喜欢普通话的原<SPAN lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-field-code: ' HYPERLINK ''o '转贴并收藏''"></SPAN></SPAN>因</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt" lang=EN-US><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">文化中心么北方乡土文化的中心当然是在北京,可是其他文化的中心可不在了。</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">语音复杂也许算不上先进,但是语音简化到歧义百出,权利权力不分、做作不分的语言可算不上</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">「</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">先进</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">」</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">。<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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正正
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<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt" lang=EN-US>[</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt">转帖<SPAN lang=EN-US>] </SPAN>转自百度粤语吧<SPAN lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: gray" lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN><A href="http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=495555009"><SPAN style="COLOR: gray"><FONT face="Times New Roman">http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=495555009</FONT></SPAN></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">帖名</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">:</FONT></SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">粤语与普通话的区别</SPAN></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">21</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">樓</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">作者:</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">221.7.248.*<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>2009-11-18 12:55 </FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">六楼朋友说的</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">"</FONT></SPAN></B><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">如果用普通话思维,可能降低自己的智商</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">" </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">请问这句话有根据吗</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">有根据。</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 26pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt">普通話</SPAN></B><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; COLOR: navy; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt"> </SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">音太少,只会普通话的人就</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"> </SPAN></P>
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正正
發表於 2010-2-14 00:21:18
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<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US>[</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">转帖<SPAN lang=EN-US>] </SPAN>转自百度粤语吧<SPAN lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: gray" lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN><A href="http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=14296529"><SPAN style="COLOR: gray"><FONT face="Times New Roman">http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=14296529</FONT></SPAN></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">帖名</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN lang=EN-US>:</SPAN><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: black; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US> </SPAN></B></FONT><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; COLOR: black; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">谈谈普通话的缺陷</SPAN></B><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: black; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT></SPAN></B><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; COLOR: black; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">转贴</SPAN></B><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: black; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT></SPAN></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">14</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">樓</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">作者:</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">60.18.9.*<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>2005-4-29 06:06 </FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B> </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">虽然我是北方人,但我觉得</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">普通话的发音的确很简单笨拙。</SPAN></P>
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正正
發表於 2010-2-14 00:22:47
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正正
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<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">12</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">樓</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">作者:</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">Brapian<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>2008-4-13 10:47 </FONT></SPAN></P>
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COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">和</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US>o</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">都发不出,一定要发成</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US>ai</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">和</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US>ao</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">,比如说</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">「</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US>DOS</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimHei; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: SimHei; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體" lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">」</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimHei; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體">,他们非念成</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; 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發表於 2010-2-15 21:02:45
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转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[转帖] 转自百度汉语吧http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=144009957帖名: [转粤语吧]不喜欢普通话的原因1樓 作者:220.248.114.*2006-10-30 20:30
作者: 219.132.184.*2006-10-28 22:45.
不喜欢普通话的原因
心,新,欣,鑫,馨这五个字
普通话的发音一律读成:XIN1
而白话发音:心SUM,新SUN,欣YUN,鑫YUM,馨HING,完全区别开。
從實踐中可以證明只有白癡或者低能的人發音才會那麼單調!
所以講白話的人聽到普通話就覺得難聽而且反感,原因就可能在這裏了。
而且用拼音打字也觉得烦,还要选择1,2,3,4,5。。。。。眼花缭乱
堂堂一個大國,語言當中的發音,居然沒有韻母M結尾的發音,例如心SUM, 鑫YUM,真搞不懂是什麼語言。.学白话的捞佬,常常把少林足球的林LUM,说成LEN,嘴唇不懂闭合,不晓得他们读英文单词COME,是不是发音为CONE???
如果我的名字叫杨心,我老爸叫杨新,我姐姐叫杨欣,我妹妹叫杨鑫,我老婆叫杨馨。
如果邀请你这捞佬朋友到我家,跟你介绍我的家人,你说烦不烦???
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[转帖] 转自百度汉语吧 帖名: [转粤语吧]不喜欢普通话的原因
http://tieba.baidu.com/f?z=14400 ... =%BA%BA%D3%EF&pn=30
32樓 作者:秋天寂廖2006-11-13 18:42
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谁叫北方仍然是政治中心和文化中心呢?
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文化中心?问问吴人江北腔是什么?
普通話那種音系簡到匪夷所思的語言還來鄙視別人,笑煞人了。
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转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[有改转帖(一些位置詞用xx代替)] 转自百度汉語吧 帖名:世界上哪种语言最好听?http://tieba.baidu.com/f?z=93219414&ct=335544320&lm=0&sc=0&rn=30&tn=baiduPostBrowser&word=%BA%BA%D3%EF&pn=6081-86樓 作者:59.52.20.*2006-8-7 05:34 起..不要以为现在的人学普通话这种垃圾,就证明你们普通话不得了,压我们,靠人多也没用,在南方特别是方言地区,广东闽南上海地区,普通话永远都是垃圾
事实摆在面前,学这种垃圾,也是为了怕跟你们这些XX垃圾说话,迁就你们这些垃圾
要想改变我们的看法学下我们的方言再说啦,你们这些垃圾,看你们也只想讲普通话这种垃圾,广东歌,,上海歌,闽南歌不适合你们,你们只配听国语垃圾歌,还国语呢,XX垃圾话。,一堆屎,呸,南方人不说你们,是怕你们这些垃圾,我可不怕,大家心里怎么想就怎么说,我们南方的语言是好,不怕比,屎你是一堆屎啊 可怜的XX,可能到死还不知道自己的语言是多么的垃圾,呵呵,真是可笑,上面的一些XX垃圾,还在得意,去下广东,去下香港,看你们多可怜啊
居然没人说广东话是我们中国人的,,原来不是为了迁就XX垃圾狗
广东话是国语,这些XX垃圾,嘴巴说烂啦,都学不会,我看死了这些垃圾
你瞧你们XX人这些出息,一点都不知错,自己祖先垃圾还不承认 ,我看你们这些垃圾去英国怎么办,去外国怎么办,可能你们在学校学英语,外国话学的不知几起劲,中国自己的方言,毫无心机去学,连发音也不知道,正宗的垃圾,我今天来了这个吧,才知道XX人是多么的垃圾 别的不说,广州话中九个音调跟音节,XX垃圾就不配,还有词汇更不要去说,香港粤语,广东话自己的方言字就多到让你们XX人头痛,广东话才是真正的汉语,其它中国方言也是。很多自己的字,你们这些垃圾XX人还好意思在这里吵,还好意思说,用回你们XX话,说你们,就是
那句打不出的脏话 最后还想说一句,这些垃圾XX人,现在上网这么好的条件,可以上网听广东话新闻,可以学下南方方言,都不去,还在这里抵触
抵你X全家
这么好的条件不去学广东话,去看下我们南方人的新闻播音员多威风 我们的广东话多么阳刚的语言,XX人说话跟娘娘腔样的,我小时候都是没办法学这种垃圾,不过不学这种垃圾,不相比一下,怎么知道普通话XX话是这么的垃圾? 我是江西的,我也搞了很久才明白的,我知道区别但是分不太清T跟K 虽然听起来不是很大影响,但我知道当时看广州话字典,有点头痛,始终这两个字猜不透,我原来都是听粤语歌曲,电影,然后去分析粤语字典中的音调,音节
就是没人指导的情况下,最后就是T跟K分不清,今天多谢楼主指出区别 而且教我们去发这个音,你的贡献很大,其实我现在还不是发的很准 我想问下上颚到底是哪里?,我在口腔方面了解不多,还有舌根是哪里呢?
我以后一定会心里感谢你一辈子的,谢谢楼主帮我解释一下 XX佬根本没脸进汉语吧,进粤语吧去学学再过来,不要丢人现眼,我是江西人,怎么样..
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本帖最後由 正正 於 2010-2-17 14:43 編輯
转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[有改转帖(一些位置詞用xx代替)] 转自百度汉語吧 帖名:世界上哪种语言最好听?http://tieba.baidu.com/f?z=93219414&ct=335544320&lm=0&sc=0&rn=30&tn=baiduPostBrowser&word=%BA%BA%D3%EF&pn=6087樓 作者:欣賞張家輝 2006-8-7 05:37 ..良心话,广州话是九个音调的方言,而且发音押韵,有正规字典,词汇跟俚语都是接近古汉语是真正的中国话,普通话四个音调,是垃圾话,,不是靠你们XX人多,推广,你们这种普通垃圾XX话,还能出来见人,任何一种方言都好过普通话XX话,更不要说广州话 .
你们以为推广普通话,就能证明普通话有什么过人之处,只不过是垃圾,在你听不惯广州话的时候,以为广州难听,是因为你从来没用心去学,中国的传统语言文化,你懂了之后,你会觉得你这一辈白活这么久,最后我想说,你们英语是不是天生会懂,还是老师教的发音,广州话你懂发音觉得她有很多过人之处,你就知道中国什么语言才是宝贵,都是些XX垃圾,还好上面有些有为广东话说好话,所以说單憑好聽的話,.粵語最好聽,所以理所當然優越感,.我外地人也觉得听得懂讲得不错,很优越
.我花了功夫,不像你们这些垃圾,只是听不惯又不肯学,又说难听,你们只配懂这种人人都听得懂普通话,想说服我就讲道理,不过我想你们XX话普通话都是垃圾,没什么好地方,只是人人都懂的垃圾,居然拿广州话跟普通话垃圾相比,不要脸的东西,啊,呸。88,此地不宜 .
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转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[转帖] 转自百度粤语吧 http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=701048568
帖名:一个北方人的自白1楼3楼作者:zhangcun444日期:2010-1-25
....各位粤人,你们好,为了说明问题,我用普通话表达吧,我的文章可能有点长,但是请你们耐心读完!谢谢先。
我是土生土长的山东人,至今23岁了也从没离开过山东,我接触粤语是4年前的事了,当时我上高三,主要是通过听歌接触的,那时候我觉得跟普通话没什么两样,都是用于交流的吗呵呵,高三过完了,我上了大学,上了大学之后我空余时间很多,我喜欢上了港片跟TVB的港剧,这是我真正接触粤语的开始,那个时候也没学过粤语所以听起来感觉很有意思很有韵味,于是产生了浓烈的兴趣决心学广东话,我用SopCast这个软件看翡翠台,我们这边收不到粤语台,悲哀啊!!每天都看,为自己制造粤语环境。.
学了很久,我发现我听基本上能听懂了,于是我加了几个粤语群,跟里边的人语音聊天,发现我根本就讲不出口,发音都很不标准,经网友建议,我再一次下决心系统的学习白话,从粤语拼音方案学起,这也是我真正认识这门语言的开端,有着浓烈的兴趣的我开始热衷于粤语的学习,我每天都在学习,跟网友语音练口语,看港片港剧积累词汇,背词汇,练口语。大约学了一年的时间,我发现我能讲了,很有成就感。
下面我谈谈我对这门语言的认识,首先我发现粤语是一门相当繁琐的语言,韵母数量惊人,入声把我搞得焦头烂额,呵呵,同时我觉得粤语真的是一门很优雅的语言,讲粤语嘴张不大,不像北方话那样口张得很大,所以北语很适合大声讲话,适合喊军令,北方话很粗犷,生活在山东20多年,我到此时此刻才知道北语有多垃圾,我看了佛山台的粤语节目感觉很不错,我越來越崇拜粵語了,因为粤语很古雅,与古汉语关系很大,我拿粤语跟普通话相比,我发现普通话音很少,入声丢失(都被北方游牧民族糟蹋没了),后来,我们大一有一门课程叫做古诗文鉴赏,很厚的一本教材,里边全部是古诗文,于是乎我用粤语来研究这本书,我把里边的诗文输入到粤语发音软件里边,然后我跟着读,我发现用粤语读很有韵味,最重要的是押韵押得相当好,粤语果然是华夏汉语正音!!!!!.我震惊了,于是 我更加崇拜粤语了,.到现在我还一直在研究粤语,太完美的汉语了!!
由于普通话音很少,所以同音字相当多,同音字产生的歧义就非常多,比如「的,得,地」三个字,在粤语中读音完全不同,但是在普通话里是同音字,简直是笑话!!形近音不近的现象在普通话里边太多啦,我就不说啦,所以.普通話是一種不倫不類的漢語!!.用普通話交流有很大的障礙,.上学期上课老师讲了个专业词「淘客」,老师说出口,我们都笑,我们都认为是「逃课」,呵呵 无奈之下 老师只能把这个词写在了黑板上,.普通話真的不適合交流,.音系太简单,同音字太多,词汇太少,为什么说词汇太少呢,因为很多事物感情是很难找到词汇表达的,所以我现在都经常冒出一些粤语词汇来跟别人交流,没办法,很多事物无法用普通话词汇表达,所以普通话效率很低,不适合交流。
粤语真有韵味,尤其是入声,粤语完美的继承了古汉语的语言元素,相比之下普通话含有很多北方游牧民族的语言元素,卷着舌头说话,我发现我的母语是这么的低B!!
这几天穿梭于粤语贴吧跟普通话贴吧感触颇多,在普通话贴吧看到一些脑残北方人斥责人家粤语,更有甚者,讥讽广东人为猴子,岂不知道北方人自己都是些混血,我作为一名北方人与这样的脑残同胞感觉是一种耻辱!!这些脑残历史没学好吧,你们没学过古代的移民潮吗,没了解过中国历史上的无数次的北方民族大融合吗,不知道北胡人很中原汉人通婚吗,所以你们都是混血,说不好听一点都是杂种!!!是杂种你们懂吗!!.真的感覺普通話不配稱為漢語這個大家族當中的一員,不配做漢語,但為什麼還在大力推廣呢,為什麼還在毀滅地方語言呢??!!!
.自从学了粤语之后,我产生了强烈的语言自卑感,感觉自己的语言这么低B,哎,但生活在北方又不得不讲北语,哎!!真是矛盾啊!!!我永远支持粤人,永远支持粤语!!!.通过普通话跟粤语的对比 我发现了北胡人当年糟蹋汉语的一些手段,比如,他们将ng这个后鼻音去掉啦,导致很多没声母的文字,为什么去掉,因为这个音不适合大声讲话,再就是入声字读不好,干脆把入声搞没了,比如粤jyut是个入声字,普通话读不好就干脆读成yue啦,再就是把很多近音字干脆读成同音字啦,比如世跟事 这两个字,汉语被糟蹋成像今天的普通话这样,真是悲哀啊!!.
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發表於 2010-2-19 21:12:43
转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[转帖] 转自天涯杂谈帖名:中国正宗古汉语发音到底是不是粤语发音http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/free/1/1724252.shtml作者:sunxyni 回复日期:2009-10-30 02:46:25..…现在讲的话也退化了,历史的悲剧阿~话说现在的普通话还真是有点缺点的,比如- -讲不快,可能是咬字重或是卷舌音的关系,现在的北方语系大都讲的有点慢,越是像俺这样普通话标准的越讲不快,显得有些口拙
~ 哭.
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發表於 2010-2-19 21:15:26
本帖最後由 正正 於 2010-2-19 21:17 編輯
转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[选貼] 转自百度汉语吧帖名:吴语粤语才是纯正的汉语?〖转〗http://tieba.baidu.com/f?z=12345016&ct=335544320&lm=0&sc=0&rn=30&tn=baiduPostBrowser&word=%BA%BA%D3%EF&pn=120130楼-131楼作者:124.244.106.*2008-5-21 18:30-18:33..--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
101楼作者:陳原草2006-8-11 15:52每个国家在制定普通话得时候都是首先考虑实用性,历史原因是次要的。说普通话大部分中国人都能听懂,包括吴
粤方言区的人,要是说吴语粤语,北方方言区的人都听不懂-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>101 都是学了才懂吧? 你在说废话吧>>110 汉字己经变了 就一简开始已经变了
郁动 优郁 甚麼 杂货 十三么
一只 只有 汉字被普通话私有化了 还好二简被废了…..
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發表於 2010-2-19 21:19:43
转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[转帖] 转自百度汉語吧http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=254943907 帖名: 什么才是真正的汉语普通话? 16楼 作者:人种研究愛好者2008-7-2 11:15 ..現代普通話發音確實挺困難。
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發表於 2010-2-19 21:21:35
本帖最後由 正正 於 2010-2-19 21:22 編輯
转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[选择式转貼] 转自百度汉語吧http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=254943907 帖名: 什么才是真正的汉语普通话? 17楼 作者:116.30.209.*2008-7-2 12:52 ..14,15楼 不懂普通话的历史 不要妄谈
南方汉语乃鞑虏犯境 汉人南迁
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普通话发音满清贵族亦耻之 发音不全 词汇不全
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發表於 2010-2-22 19:41:37
本帖最後由 正正 於 2010-2-22 19:43 編輯
转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[转帖] 转自百度汉語吧 帖名:广东话有9个声调````普通话只有4个声调~~因此广东话更悦耳http://tieba.baidu.com/f?z=138115379&ct=335544320&lm=0&sc=0&rn=30&tn=baiduPostBrowser&word=%BA%BA%D3%EF&pn=30 47樓 作者:wruhqm2010-1-20 12:01 ..都没说到重点音调 缺高平 入声
音韵 无入韵ktp 无全鼻韵m
结果 大量同音字 节奏感差
.整体感觉 太柔软 太刺耳
太刺耳的原因 摩擦音jqx zcs zhchshi 太多
太柔软的原因 无入韵 介音yw太多
.總之 普通話就其音韻而言 並非什麼進步 是少數民族入主中國而造成的音韻倒退
.崖山之后再无中国 这句话不仅适用于政治亦适用于作为文化载体的中国古典汉语..
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發表於 2010-2-22 19:45:10
转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[转帖] 转自天涯杂谈http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/free/1/1724252.shtml帖名:中国正宗古汉语发音到底是不是粤语发音作者:killerbee2047 回复日期:2009-10-30 12:24:34..一个民族的性格可以由其语言决定的, 中国话大气, 好听, 逻辑性强,
...北方胡语肤浅, 虚伪作假, 奴性, 难念难听, 同音的字多...
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發表於 2010-2-22 19:47:02
转贴者声明:本帖观点不代表转贴者的观点.[转帖] 转自百度廣东話吧http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=715589084 帖名: 大家觉吾觉听普语歌吾知噏乜?1楼 作者:112.96.30.*2010-2-19 17:35 ..聽普語歌,如果吾睇字幕,大部分歌詞聽吾清,而粵語歌就吾會,就算 快歌 都冇問題。..